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Jon-Paul Hale

Needs analysis and your advice process

Monday 2nd of July 2018

These are the discovery of the value of assets with a client and this whole bit about education planning for the future.

Now don’t get me wrong, having a good picture of your client is all part of the process, and I do discover how many houses they own, general asset position, and generally some aspirational stuff around the goals and around education, if they have kids, of course.

What I’m talking about here is the bit where you put numbers to that in your advice.

Fundamentally as advisers I think we are overcooking some of this. Because someone who claims, never complains it is too much, and those that don't claim, never realize they were over insured.

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