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Ross exempt from ‘most demanding’ AFA standard

Wednesday 5th of December 2012

Chartered accountants were given an exemption from Standard Set C of the National Certificate in Financial Services Level  5, which advisers must complete to be eligible to become AFAs.
Standard Set C is the unit standard that focuses on professional practice and it requires advisers to submit a portfolio of evidence to demonstrate their current practice in aspects such as disclosure and documentation.

Chartered accountants were among a number of groups that weren’t required to complete the standard, including Certified Financial Planners, CFA Charterholders and Chartered Life Underwriters.

Code Committee chairman David Ireland said the decision to exempt chartered accountants was made after an “intense discussion” with the New Zealand Institute of Chartered Accountants (NZICA).

“It was decided the combination of requirements chartered accountants had to satisfy was sufficient to reflect Standard Set C.”

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